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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 23:38:55 GMT -5
wondering how people would feel about a 'house rule' such as:
you may use the Survival skill to forage rations for eating or herb doses for use with the Herbalist skill. the number of rations or herb doses you find equals the Survival skill level. may only be used once daily and, of course, in the proper terrain.
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Post by gigglestick on Jul 12, 2012 11:00:20 GMT -5
Sounds good.
In our house campaign, we used something similar. We try to keep new rules down to 1 paragraph or less. We allowed Survival to check for food OR herbs (though multiple characters could each search for something different). You got 1d6 doses per level, either Man-Days worth of food or Herbs that would heal 1 point of FATIGUEor STR per level.
Herbs could also be used as a 4/IQ to remove effects of poisons, disease, etc.
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Post by mister frau blucher on Jul 12, 2012 11:35:57 GMT -5
Sounds interesting ewookie, but I wonder wouldn't it be better to allow someone with Herbalist to forage for the herbs? Survival allows you to forage for food, as the rules state, but maybe someone with the Herbalist skill would be better at finding and identifying the herbs, since they specialize in them, whereas Survival is concerned with a broader information base.
We try to give each skill a tangible benefit in and of itself, as defined in the Skills section of our massive rules tome; but just about every skill comes into play in an adventure as well, so there are several benefits to having a particular skill.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 13:31:46 GMT -5
gigglestickthat sounds good @bret it _would_ be better to just let a Herbalist forage for herbs. however, the Herbalist would also know how to forage for edible plant life also...so it seemed to me. i use to be interested in this skill in real life and 9 out of 10 books on the subject were 'Edible and Medicinal Plants'. i felt like that was a little too much power to package into the Herbalist skill...Survival and Herbalism rolled into one skill. also, an urban dweller may know what to do with herbs but not how/where to find them. Being urban dwellers, they simply go to the market and buy them. if the Herbalist could forage for herbs with just that skill, there wouldn't be any real need to buy herbs. from glancing over the games played on the board, i was under the impression that some adventures presented players with an opportunity to buy herbs. making Survival and Herbalist both required to forage for herbs was also an attempt to 'stay harmonious' with existing materials.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 14:08:42 GMT -5
oh, and you do a great job of this. Survival has it's tangible benefit in and of itself. Herbalist has it's tangible benefit in and of itself. together, they yield an extra benefit. i love analogies... chocolate is yummy. peanut butter is yummy. put them together for extra yumminess
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 14:19:03 GMT -5
gigglestickyour rule is pretty much the same thing that i was proposing but more gratuitous with the results. it's fairly simple so i will problably use it...but i'm a tinkerer...i have a desire to make it yield 1d6 food (3-6 you kill some small game; 1-3 you found some veggies) or <skill level># of doses of healing herbs.
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Post by mister frau blucher on Jul 12, 2012 14:28:18 GMT -5
Hey, you got your Survival in my Herbalist! Hmm, now that I think about it, I haven't seen that Reese's commercial since the eighties..or maybe before...you might not know what I am babbling about! I'll have to see if it is on youtube.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 14:36:32 GMT -5
Hey, you got your Survival in my Herbalist! Hmm, now that I think about it, I haven't seen that Reese's commercial since the eighties..or maybe before...you might not know what I am babbling about! I'll have to see if it is on youtube. no need. i remember it well. LOL so is that an argument against survival + herbalist = forage for herbs? if so, maybe you should search for one of those commercials on youtube (i expected you might fire back with something like that ) also, i'm not saying you must have Survival skill to obtain Herbalist skill. neither am i saying you must have Herbalist skill to obtain Survival skill. if all you have is plain chocolate, eat plain chocolate. if all you have is PB, eat PB...but if you have BOTH, you have the option to mix them together for something extra delicious
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Post by mister frau blucher on Jul 12, 2012 15:08:54 GMT -5
No, that is not arguing against your proposal. Just brandishing my cricket-chirp-inducing sense of humor.
I can definitely see where you are coming from with the idea, it makes sense. I like that you reason things through like this, and tinker with our rules - that is what they are there for!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 15:18:02 GMT -5
well, there are crickets chirping here...but you can't hear them over my giggling i know you were joking (at least in part) and so was i.
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Post by gigglestick on Jul 12, 2012 16:34:06 GMT -5
Hey, you got your Survival in my Herbalist! Hmm, now that I think about it, I haven't seen that Reese's commercial since the eighties..or maybe before...you might not know what I am babbling about! I'll have to see if it is on youtube. Nice one... Us old farts get to laugh at stuff from the past... It's a little wierd that there are gamers with grandkids now... Anyway, all of this is good stuff. And allowing Herbalists to forage for herbs is also cool. Generally, I allow characters to use a similar skill at -2. (An herbalist could probably forage for enough edible plants to feed the party, but it would be harder.)
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Post by mister frau blucher on Jul 12, 2012 16:49:30 GMT -5
Us old farts get to laugh at stuff from the past... It's a little wierd that there are gamers with grandkids now... Ain't it the truth (both of those statements!)!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 20:04:11 GMT -5
ok, i see that gigglestick is 40. i'm 38. bret, your profile doesn't show such info. how old are you?
i mean, i remember the commercials and frequently use that line myself...but i don't feel like i've earned the title of 'old fart' yet...even though i look forward to the day that i can.
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Post by gigglestick on Jul 12, 2012 22:47:04 GMT -5
The scary thing is when you date people a little younger than yourself (well, a lot younger). Dated a girl 12 years younger than me a few years ago and she wasn't alive to see the original star wars trilogy or tron. Of course, she also was lucky enough to miss Hawk the Slayer and Dungeonmaster...sot thats not all bad.
These days, I meet gamers who consider 3.5 to be Old School D&D and Steve Jackson is the guy who made Munchkin...
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Post by mister frau blucher on Jul 13, 2012 9:39:35 GMT -5
I'm 46. Whether that qualifies as old fart or not, my body sure feels like it.
But that could be the mileage...
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