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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2012 17:49:17 GMT -5
Rules question for our game, Mr. Taltos. Colt in one hand, Remington in the other, used at once a la Lone Ranger (I think). How would you rule? Enjoying the game immensely, btw. Let's go with -2/DX primary hand; -6/DX secondary hand. Glad you're enjoying it. I'm completely winging it. Let's see how far I can go before I write myself into a corner. i wasn't going to say it but i thought you were winging it. i didn't want to say it because i thought it would be taken negatively. however, it is the highly entertaining and enjoyable factor that made me think you were winging it. those are always the best games, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 10:38:42 GMT -5
i sure hope nobody slips and hurts themselves in all that blood Keith is leaking out...
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Post by darkscar on Feb 1, 2013 14:27:52 GMT -5
Vlad, you're full of surprises. Really good stuff. My next post probably won't be until Monday I'm afraid.
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Post by vladtaltos on Feb 1, 2013 16:53:30 GMT -5
Vlad, you're full of surprises. Really good stuff. My next post probably won't be until Monday I'm afraid. Thanks. No problem, darkscar. Take your time.
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Post by darkscar on Mar 15, 2013 10:44:35 GMT -5
I love your NPCs, vlad. They all have this sinister undertone. Nothing that hits you in the face, just very subtle, keeping me on my toes. Excellent.
Hey, I'll be AFK (online gaming's acronym for Away from Keyboard) from ... now until Monday.
This game has rekindled my interest in Western films. This goes to anyone who cares to answer...What are some of your favorite western films?
I'l mention one for now...High Noon
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 20:04:33 GMT -5
i like most of clint eastwood's westerns. i couldn't ever get into the one that i think is the most popular or lauded (good, bad, ugly). favorite eastwood westerns are outlaw josey wales, high plains drifter, hang'em high, and unforgiven.
i like the old lonesome dove miniseries a whole lot. the commanche moon prequel was just ok. i don't think anyone would like it if they hadn't already seen lonesome dove.
dances with wolves, tombstone (kurt russell, val kilmer), wyatt earp (keven costner)
hidalgo and appaloosa (both with Viggo Mortensen)
i really liked the new 3:10 to Yuma with Christian Bale and Russell Crowe. i never saw the old/original? with Yule Brenner, so i don't know how they compare.
the current AMC series Hell on Wheels had a weak start for me but i really liked it by the middle of the 1st season. season 2 was good but the first half felt like a reboot of season 1. they've had some major behind the scenes talent changes since the end of season 2, so i'm a bit skeptical how season 3 will turn out. all in all the series has had some really good story arcs but some really bad plot devices. i can't shake the feeling that they've got some good material and ideas...they just don't know where to take it or how to steer it for a tv series. it seems like it would have made a better miniseries with option to do a followup miniseries every year or so. i'd say the show is good but a less than stellar cross between Deadwood (HBO series), Gone with the Wind, and Josey Wales.
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Post by vladtaltos on Mar 16, 2013 9:33:56 GMT -5
I love your NPCs, vlad. They all have this sinister undertone. Nothing that hits you in the face, just very subtle, keeping me on my toes. Excellent. Thanks, darkscar. I aims to pleeze. This game has rekindled my interest in Western films. This goes to anyone who cares to answer...What are some of your favorite western films?
I'l mention one for now...High Noon High Noon, a classic with Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly. Great story, great acting. You chose a good one. I also agree with ewookie on Eastwood's films. I was never much of a fan of the Man With No Name trilogy ( Fistful of Dollars; For a Few Dollars More; and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). But I did like some of Eastwood's other westerns-- Hang 'em High, and The Outlaw Josey Wales, in particular. But as for my favorite, I have one that I clearly like better than the rest and that is... Once Upon a Time in the WestThe opening scene at the train and telegraph station is the best opening of any film I've ever seen, regardless of genre. From the cinematography, the spartan dialogue, and as credits occasionally roll, the first 10-15 minutes builds to an intense moment as three men wait for another man coming on the noontime train. Sergio Leone bucked standard operating procedure with this opening, and it paid huge dividends. Three hours later, I hated to see the movie end. It's one of two films that last around 3 hours that I've watched more than once. Some others I thought were special that haven't been mentioned yet... The Magnificent Seven The Ox-Bow Incident The Searchers True Grit (the most recent version, made around 2009 or so) I'm going to mention one more that I liked and that I doubt you'll ever see mentioned as a great western, or even a good western, and that's The Shooting (not to be confused with the better known film The Shootist). The Shooting was made in '66 and stars Warren Oates, Millie Perkins, and a young Jack Nicholson. If you miss the first two minutes of the movie, or if you can't understand what the characters are saying at one key moment around the two-minute mark (as it's not easy as they lay on thick Southern or Western accents or whatever it's supposed to be) the ending will make no sense. It took me about five watchings spread out over many years before I finally heard and saw everything that I was supposed to hear and see to have the ending make sense. But when it did it was one of those "Ah" moments. Good film. Probably under appreciated by the Hollywood cognoscenti.
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Post by mister frau blucher on Mar 16, 2013 9:35:21 GMT -5
High Noon is one of my all time faves, darkscar.
I have said politics is off limits here - not to stifle free speech, but just so we can all get away from it and talk about games without getting political passions stirred up. I am taking a slight exception here, because there was a lot of politics that is tied to High Noon - some real, some perceived. But this is more just pointing it out, rather than taking a stand.
The writer was blacklisted by McCarthy and was dragged before the House UnAmerican Activities Committee. He never worked in America again, as far as I know. The film was seen as a communist allegory, if you can belive it. I don't. It is the struggle of the individual, making a stand for what is right, even when nobody will stand with him.
Powerful stuff.
John Wayne hated it, even though he accepted the oscar for Gary Cooper (who was sick). The Duke was a hardcore McCarthyist for one, but he also said many times he did not believe that in America, people would not pitch in to help, so he did not like the movie for he felt it unrealistically portrayed the American west in that respect.
I think that was a bit naive, and probably due to his movie star position, where everyone came to his aid in the Hollywood version of the west, rather than an extensive study of history.
Anyway, the movie Rio Bravo was his expressed conservative (his words) response to High Noon. In it, he declines help from evryone, but they all show up at the end to help anyway. I like Rio Bravo, but once I understood that it was a tit-for-tat rebuttal to High Noon, it lost some of its character for me.
OK, sorry for the political aside, breaking my own rules, but it is almost impossible to mention the powerful High Noon without knowing some of the background leading to and from it.
I love Eastwood, ewookie, as well. I think Unforgiven is his best, because it is so dirty and unheroic. Killing is ugly, and you see it there.
Magnificant Seven was one of my favorites growing up, as was Jeremiah Johnson.
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Post by vladtaltos on Mar 16, 2013 9:56:54 GMT -5
Fascinating stuff, Bret. I never knew that about the writer of High Noon or that Rio Bravo was Wayne's response.
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Post by mister frau blucher on Mar 16, 2013 10:12:38 GMT -5
I have never heard of The Shooting - I'll look for it, sounds good. Here is the wikipedia entry on High Noon, which goes into a bit more detail (under Reception). As usual, you can click on a lot of the names off of here and get even more info (like the writer, carl Foreman's biography). Check out the entry for Rio Bravo as well. Co incidently, one of the co-writers on Rio Bravo was Leigh Brackett, one of my favorite SF/sword-and-planet writers (the John Stark series). She did a lot of Hollywood screenplays, like the Big Sleep. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Noon Also - Once Upon a Time in the West is great, too! I haven't seen it in like 25 years, thanks for reminding me!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2013 23:15:48 GMT -5
some interesting info bret.
glad to find someone that likes the recent True Grit more than the old one.
although i picked josey wales as my favorite eastwood, if someone were to watch only one eastwood western, i think it should be high plains drifter. pale rider was a pale imitation of it. i think it's the best even though josey wales is my favorite.
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Post by rockprairie on Mar 17, 2013 0:12:04 GMT -5
Using the card generator instead of die rolls is a nice touch Vlad!
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Post by vladtaltos on Mar 17, 2013 9:18:58 GMT -5
Using the card generator instead of die rolls is a nice touch Vlad! Thanks, rockprairie. It's a versatile site. The dice can be set to a number of different gaming systems with their unique dice mechanics, as well as to a deck of cards.
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Post by rockprairie on Mar 17, 2013 22:20:37 GMT -5
I'm a fan of "The Cowboys", "The Sons of Katie Elder", "Red River", "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence" and everthing John Wayne did.
Speaking of Mr. Stewart, how about "The Man from Laramaie" and "Broken Arrow"?
"Open Range" is another one of my favorites!
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Post by darkscar on Mar 18, 2013 9:57:49 GMT -5
Hey, you guys took all the good ones. Now, I have little to add. That's great, glad to see the input.
The only film I can add to the list is The Wild Bunch.
Nobody for Django Unchained, eh? LOL. I agree.
rockprairie, I really liked The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, and Broken Arrow, too. Those two films were my first look at the acting talents of Jimmy Stewart way back when I was a young fellow.
vlad, good list. I'll have to look for The Ox-Bow Incident. Reading the blurb on the web, it looks very interesting. I saw The Shooting on TV a long time ago, and yeah, the ending was confusing. I'll have to pay closer attention to the beginning.
I liked Appaloosa a lot, ewookie. It's definitely among my top 5 westerns.
I suppose I liked the Eastwood Man With No Name movies more than the rest of you. His character was the first anti-hero I was exposed to, long before I ever heard of Elric of Melnibone ;D
Your mention of the controversy surrounding High Noon, Bret, reminded me of the problems Foreman faced during that time, but I had long forgotten about it. Strange times, indeed.
Thanks for the input everyone, you each gave me some movies to look for.
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