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Post by mister frau blucher on Apr 28, 2015 9:21:08 GMT -5
Hey, all,
Some people here might be interested in the revival of some of the old Ral Partha figure lines. These were some of the most beautiful figures produced at the time, mostly sculpts by Tom Meier. They are true 25mm so they are a bit shorter than the figures of today.
Take a look!
I am in for way too much, but I have been saving my money for months. Originally I was going in on the Dwarven Forge City Builder kickstarter, but I just wasn't liking it as much as the dungeon and cavern lines (which are awesome!). So I passed and used those funds here.
Bret
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Post by nukesnipe on May 3, 2015 7:46:14 GMT -5
Alas, wrong scale....
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Post by mister frau blucher on Apr 27, 2016 14:16:52 GMT -5
Hey, everybody,
Ral Partha is running their second kickstarter for the old 25mm figures now. It features dwarves, troglodytes, and undead, but there are an incredible number of options and races available - over 200 different figures/groups of figures.
Please check it out!
And if you do end up buying anything, please mention my name (Breton Winters) when you fill out the order. There is some social media promotion, where you can get a few free figures by recruiting backers and having them mention your name when you fill out your purchase. I would really like to generate over 300 dollars for them this way, as I would get an old promotional exclusive sculpt by Dennis Mize that was never for sale. Don't buy anything you don't want, but these are still some of the most beautiful sculpts available anywhere!
Bret
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Post by araman on Apr 27, 2016 15:55:17 GMT -5
I suppose that if I checked them out, I might be tempted to buy some. (Even though I haven't done any table-top gaming in years.) And then it might be fun (or humbling) to see if I could still paint using these OLD eyes. But if I do buy any Bret, I'll be sure to do a little name dropping.
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Post by mister frau blucher on Apr 27, 2016 16:32:15 GMT -5
Hey, araman,
My eyes are pretty old, too! They turned 50 a month ago. I don't worry about painting nice, I just paint in block, utilitarian colors and style. I had a few photos up, but I am taking some more this weekend during a playtest. I will post them, and you are bound to feel much more confident in your painting style in comparison!
Check out the Warbands, some of the first sets shown near the top of the options. You get 15 different figures, so they are great for making parties/enemies from. Some of these undead will be making an appearance in the uopcoming Steel Gap module...
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Post by platimus on Apr 27, 2016 19:46:47 GMT -5
Bret, Thanks for the heads up, man! Talk about strange coincidences...  You know, I sold my Bones kickstarters (about a year ago) once I felt like I had the hang of painting (after about 10 attempts on 5 figures). I've been getting the itch for the last couple of months and wishing I had not sold the Bones. However, I have two of the D&D boxed boardgame sets (Wrath of Azaloth? and Ravenloft) that I've been too lazy to sell/ship. Last weekend, I started painting the minis included in those sets. I really like how they are all based in a standard/uniform way. I HATE basing! The "Warbands" talk sounds like these are right up my alley. I'll check these out and definitely drop your name if I sign-up. |
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Post by platimus on Apr 27, 2016 20:16:15 GMT -5
Quick Question: My gallon ice cream bucket of paints are all acrylic? (for painting plastic minis). I think these Ral Parthas are metal? Wouldn't I need to use enamel paints? BTW, I had a lot of questions on painting the Bones. You and Lord had some good answers. I wanted to share the following link for any other noobs like myself... www.how-to-paint-miniatures.comI found that site VERY helpful. In fact, I should go read it now. It probably answers my above question. ADDED: My own tip(s): * an ice cube tray makes a great "paint palette" * blackwashing: instead of mixing black paint with water or wetting my brush, i "normal paint" the figure black. immediately afterwards, i clean my brush and start "painting" the figure with my brush and some water until I'm happy with the amount of black that has washed away. if i wash away too much black, repeat. |
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Post by araman on Apr 27, 2016 21:55:45 GMT -5
Plat, thanks for the link. I'll have to check it out if I decide to see what these OLD eyes can really see. I'd bet that I haven't done any painting of that sort in at least 20-25 years. It'd be interesting what I would recall from the deep, dark recesses of my memory. I vaguely remember that I used "dry-brushing" rather successfully.
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Post by platimus on Apr 27, 2016 22:18:50 GMT -5
Plat, thanks for the link. I'll have to check it out if I decide to see what these OLD eyes can really see. I'd bet that I haven't done any painting of that sort in at least 20-25 years. It'd be interesting what I would recall from the deep, dark recesses of my memory. I vaguely remember that I used "dry-brushing" rather successfully. I guess you should really thank Lord Inar. After reviewing his advice in the Bones thread, I discovered that he shared the link with me a couple of years ago. To my credit? , I forgot about it and discovered it again a year ago through my own googling! Speaking of old eyes, I never had any vision problems until about two years ago when I was painting the Bones. I picked up some reading glasses so I could see the fine details in this minis. Since then fine-print, serial#s, etc. have been getting harder and harder to read at work. I finally surrendered and carry some reading glasses around with me all the time. Its the minis fault, I tell you! |
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Post by araman on Apr 28, 2016 9:12:30 GMT -5
The way my eye doctor explained it to me was that your eyes start off as a thin stack of papers which can be easily folded. Every year a new piece is added. Eventually, you can no longer fold the papers. For most people the tipping point starts around 40. I hit that mile marker a while ago. For me, I think I had to get my glasses in my mid 40's.
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Post by mister frau blucher on Apr 28, 2016 10:12:46 GMT -5
Hey, Plat, glad you enjoyed the painting. You do not need enamels for plastics - I have always used acrylic paints. But you DO need to use a primer on them, unlike the plastic bones. Many are commercially avaivable, but the very best I have found is cheap in an auto parts store. It is the Duplicolor Sandable Primer - I get it in black, but you can get it in other colors. I spray 2 coats on the figure before paintiing - it goes on thin, but leaves all of the details.
In fact, when painting skeletons, I spray 2 or 3 coats of the primer and then just drybrush a Parchment acrlyic cover over it, and it works great!
I hope you see some stuff you like on the ral Partha KS. Just keep in mind these are true 25mm, so a bit smaller than the Reaper figs, and the modern 28-32mm stuff!
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Post by platimus on Apr 28, 2016 11:24:33 GMT -5
Hey, Plat, glad you enjoyed the painting. You do not need enamels for plastics - I have always used acrylic paints. But you DO need to use a primer on them, unlike the plastic bones. Many are commercially avaivable, but the very best I have found is cheap in an auto parts store. It is the Duplicolor Sandable Primer - I get it in black, but you can get it in other colors. I spray 2 coats on the figure before paintiing - it goes on thin, but leaves all of the details. In fact, when painting skeletons, I spray 2 or 3 coats of the primer and then just drybrush a Parchment acrlyic cover over it, and it works great! I hope you see some stuff you like on the ral Partha KS. Just keep in mind these are true 25mm, so a bit smaller than the Reaper figs, and the modern 28-32mm stuff! I think maybe I wasn't clear. After viewing the Ral Partha KS page, I had the impression that the Ral Partha KS figures will be metal (not plastic). My current paints are acrylic because I've been painting plastic. Even if I'm mistaken about whether or not Ral Partha KS figures are metal...isn't it better to use enamel paints on metal figures? Yeah, on the Bones (they were white), I heavily blackwashed them and then basically dry-brushed them. The current plastic minis I'm painting are all sorts of dark colors (except for black). So, I primed them with white spray primer first. Then I heavily blackwashed them. Next I'll dry-brush them. Some areas will get dry-brushed more than others. Some areas will get a wetter dry-brushing. |
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Post by mister frau blucher on Apr 28, 2016 11:43:16 GMT -5
You were clear - I mispoke!
I meant to say that you do not need enamels for metal - I think the rest of my post makes sense with that correction.
The RP figures are metal. I have always used acrylics on metal, but you must use primer. Most paints do not stick well to metal; the primer actually etches the metal on a microscopic level, letting the paint adhere.
As to whether it is better to use enamels instead of acrylics on metal - a new one on me, but it would not surprise me if I had been doing it wrong all these years! But the overwhelming majority of paints made for metal miniatures are acrylic, so I would stick with what you have now.
Sorry about the confusion - I should read over my posts before I hit the reply button!
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Post by platimus on Apr 28, 2016 12:27:40 GMT -5
You were clear - I mispoke! I meant to say that you do not need enamels for metal - I think the rest of my post makes sense with that correction. The RP figures are metal. I have always used acrylics on metal, but you must use primer. Most paints do not stick well to metal; the primer actually etches the metal on a microscopic level, letting the paint adhere. As to whether it is better to use enamels instead of acrylics on metal - a new one on me, but it would not surprise me if I had been doing it wrong all these years! But the overwhelming majority of paints made for metal miniatures are acrylic, so I would stick with what you have now. Sorry about the confusion - I should read over my posts before I hit the reply button! ah. I see now. Yep, that one word completely changes the way I read that now. No apologies needed. We got it straightened-out with civility. I read over my posts before I hit reply. Doesn't do me any good. That's why I love the edit button! I think the differing fonts/colors between edit/read mode are a factor for me. Also, the more fresh the thoughts are in my mind, the more likely my mind is to "auto-correct" what it reads instead of saying, "Hey, buddy. You messed up here." EDIT Thanks very much for fielding my questions! |
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Post by platimus on Apr 28, 2016 12:42:12 GMT -5
The way my eye doctor explained it to me was that your eyes start off as a thin stack of papers which can be easily folded. Every year a new piece is added. Eventually, you can no longer fold the papers. For most people the tipping point starts around 40. I hit that mile marker a while ago. For me, I think I had to get my glasses in my mid 40's. I like that explanation. I knew it had to do with the eyes' ability to focus decreasing with age. I always imagined it was some "eye muscle" or "electrical conductor" that deteriorated. I never imagined that our eyes are accumulating "tartar build-up". I'm surprised big pharma isn't selling us some kind of "mouth wash" for our eyes... |
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